clarke, that the law stopped you because you were up against, you and scotland yard were up against an international, global organization. the law doesn't allow fishing expeditions, but what the law does allow, what the law would have done to support you, as in the yard, would have been if you had obtained sufficient evidence to justify a reasonable suspicion. you would have been able to obtain access, and no amount of high-paid lawyers would have been able to stop you. so the question is there were 11,000 pages sitting that were not properly reviewed. now, i suggest, could have been reviewed, should have been reviewed and would have disclosed ed that would have -- evidence that would have allowed the police to obtain legal access to news international and maybe others. >> sir, i've already explained why i made the decision that i did at the time. >> members of the royal family including the prince of wales, prince harry, prince william, you were tasked with royalty protection, were you not, ultimately? and this is a matter of relating to royal protection as far as you knew it at the t